Episode 79

Sustainable Eating: Lab Grown Meat to Farmed Fish

Published on: 5th June, 2025

Hi, I'm Dr. Terry Simpson, your chief medical explanationist. Welcome to another edition of FORK U—where we bust myths, make sense of the madness, and teach you a little about food and medicine.

Today, let's explore how our food choices impact the environment and our health. We'll discuss lab-grown meat, grass-fed beef, and sustainable seafood.

🍔 Lab-Grown Meat: The Future of Food?

Imagine enjoying a burger that didn't require raising or slaughtering an animal. That's the idea behind lab-grown meat, also known as cultured meat. Scientists grow real animal cells in labs to create meat without the traditional farming process.The Spruce EatsVox

Why consider lab-grown meat?

While it's not widely available yet, lab-grown meat is a promising step toward sustainable eating.


🐄 Grass-Fed Beef: Is It Worth It?

Grass-fed beef comes from cows that eat grass instead of grain. Some people choose it for potential health benefits and better animal welfare. Modern Farmer

Pros:

Cons:

While grass-fed beef has benefits, it's essential to consider taste preferences and budget.


🐟 Sustainable Seafood: Making Smart Choices

Seafood is a great source of protein and omega-3 fatty acids. However, overfishing and unsustainable practices harm our oceans. Seafood Watch

Tips for Choosing Sustainable Seafood:

  • Use Guides: The Seafood Watch provides up-to-date recommendations on sustainable seafood choices.Seafood Watch+4Seafood Watch+4Seafood Watch+4
  • Farmed Salmon: While some criticize farmed salmon, it's often a sustainable option. Farmed salmon get their pink color from astaxanthin, a natural compound also found in wild salmon's diet. Modern Farmer
  • Wild-Caught Options: Alaskan salmon is a delicious and sustainable choice, rich in omega-3s.

By making informed seafood choices, we can enjoy tasty meals while protecting marine life.


🛒 Final Thoughts: Small Changes, Big Impact

Eating sustainably doesn't mean giving up your favorite foods. It's about making smarter choices:

Every small step contributes to a healthier planet and a better future.

Transcript
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>> Dr. Terry Simpson: Today we're talking about something that's gaining more attention than

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ever. Sustainable eating. Now I know what you're

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thinking. What's sustainable eating and why should I care?

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Buckle up. Because this isn't just

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about saving the planet. It's about making

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smarter, healthier food choices that benefit both you

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and the environment. Isn't it odd if you

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eat something that's healthy for the planet, it

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turns out it's also healthy for your

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body.

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I am, um, your Chief Medical Explanationist, Dr. Terri

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Simpson, and this is Fork U Fork

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University, where we bust myths, make sense of the

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madness, and teach you a little about food and

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medicine.

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So let's start with the basics. Sustainable

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eating means choosing foods that are not only healthy for

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you, but have a low impact on the environment.

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It's about making choices that support long term

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ecological balance, reduce the greenhouse gas

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emissions, minimize food waste and

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protect biodiversity. We're talking

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about eating in a way that ensures future generations can

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also have access to fresh, healthy food. But

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here's the kicker. It doesn't mean you have to

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become a full time environmental activist.

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It's about small manageable shifts.

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Choosing plant based meals over meat, heavy ones,

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buying locally grown produce, or cutting down on food waste.

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All of this matters. So why should you care?

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Because the obvious environmental reasons.

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Sustainable eating can also improve your personal

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health. I know you've heard about the Mediterranean

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diet, which is packed with fruits, vegetables, whole grains, healthy

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fats. But guess what? It's sustainable.

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By reducing your intake of animal rich products, you

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can lower your risk of heart disease, diabetes

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and even certain cancers. But beyond that, you're

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also reducing your carbon footprint. The environmental impact

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of producing animal based foods is far greater than

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plant based ones. We're talking about the massive

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amounts of water, energy and land used to raise

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livestock. It's not about what's on your plate,

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it's about the system that gets it there. Okay,

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so how can you start making better food choices today?

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Here's a few practical. Eat more plants.

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The environmental footprint of plants is far smaller than

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that of, uh, meat and dairy. You don't have to go full

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vegan. I certainly couldn't do that. But incorporating more

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plant based meals into your routine will make a difference.

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You know, you might be like my friends down the road who are

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calling themselves Chigans. Yes, I know, they

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want to come over and have me make a steak and that's just fine.

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You know, supporting local farmers and reducing the carbon

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footprint of your food by choosing products that's in season and grow

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nearby is great. And Delicious. We

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here in California have an abundance of local

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markets. One of my favorite ones is in Ojai, where I can find

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fresh and sustainably grown options. And yes,

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the carrots that they have and the berries they have are

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better than any I can find in the supermarket. But hey,

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I know not everyone has access to local markets. And

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buying local can sometimes be more expensive or

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less practical, depending upon where you live. Here's the good

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news. Frozen and canned fruits and vegetables

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can be a great alternative. They're often

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just as nutritious as fresh produce. And unlike

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the items in your refrigerator that can wilt and spoil,

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they won't go bad before you eat them. Frozen

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fruits and vegetables are typically harvested at their peak

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ripeness and frozen immediately, which means they

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retain maximal nutritional value. They're a

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great option because you can store them for longer and have

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them available when you need them. No waste, no rushing

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to eat them before they go bad. Canned fruits and

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veggies are also affordable and long lasting. And if you're

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careful about the brands that don't add excessive

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sodium or sugar, they can be as healthy as their fresh

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counterparts. That also helps reduce

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food waste. It's estimated that nearly 40% of

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food in the US goes to waste. Planning your meals, using

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leftovers. Composting food scraps helps you.

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You know that onion that's been sitting on my counter that I now have to

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throw away? The sliced onions in my

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freezer can be thrown into my saucepan and

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immediately made to make the basis of a meal.

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And guess what? I didn't have to watch that lonely

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onion slowly become compost.

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Now I want to bring up something that's incredibly exciting

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in the world of, uh, sustainable eating. Lab

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based meat. It's one of the most talked about

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innovations in food production today. And for good

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reason. Lab grown meat, or so called culture

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meat, is produced by cultivating animal cells in

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a lab rather than raising and slaughtering animals.

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This has huge implications for sustainability.

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Why does it matter? Because if we're serious about

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reducing the environmental impact of food production, we

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need to address the carbon footprint of raising

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livestock. Traditional meat production is responsible

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for a huge amount of greenhouse gas emissions,

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Amazon deforestation, land and water use. But the

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lab grown meat, it drastically cuts down

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on all of that. Now, before you go thinking this is

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some futuristic fantasy, it's actually happening.

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Companies are already producing lab grown chicken, beef, even

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seafood. The sustainability benefits are impressive.

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Less land use. You don't need vast tracts of land to

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raise animals. Less water. Producing lab grown

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meat significantly reduces the amount of water

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compared to traditional livestock farming and lower, uh,

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emissions. Cutting out the need for livestock farming helps

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slash greenhouse gas emissions,

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AKA lots of cows farting.

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But here's where things get a little heated in the marketplace.

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Many grifters out there want to push you toward grass fed

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beef and there's nothing wrong with that choice. In fact, that

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can be a better option than conventional beef. But let me

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be clear. As much as grass fed

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beef sounds great, there are some

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that taste awful. Why?

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Because not all pastures have grass or forage that

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tastes great. So if you spent a lot of money buying some

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of that beef thinking it was better for you and it didn't

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taste that great, you weren't wrong.

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Others will say, oh, there's more omega 3 fatty acids than the grass fed

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ones. That's not that much more. In

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fact, you'll find 100 times more omega 3

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fatty acids in the wild caught or farm raised salmon that

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we're going to talk about later. The truth is, grass fed

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beef may be a better option and certainly a better

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environmental option, but there are still many

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variables involved including taste, cost and

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even how it's raised.

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Now let's talk about sustainable seafood.

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There's a lot of buzz about wild caught versus farm raised

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fish, especially when it comes to salmon. A lot of people give

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farm raised salmon a bad rap, but it

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tastes delicious and if you're concerned about the environment,

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it can be a great choice when done responsibly.

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The farming practices for salmon have evolved and many

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operations now use methods that have

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minimal environmental impact. Here's a fun

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yes, farm raised salmon does get colored.

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It is not some chemical concoction that you should be

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afraid of. They add coloring to the fish food, which is

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actually the same coloring that wild salmon get when

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they eat krill in the ocean. It's

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all natural and it helps give salmon that beautiful

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pink hue. So don't let the rumors about fish coloring

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scare you off. In fact, the coloring called

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astaxanthin is actually found on your supplement

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shelf as anti inflammatory supplement.

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You can get all of that by eating farm raised salmon.

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So when choosing farm raised fish though, be sure it's coming from

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sustainable farms which are now being regulated

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and certified to meet high

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environmental and health standards. Seafood

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watch.org seafood

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watch.org I'll repeat it again.

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Seafoodwatch.org does a remarkable job of

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helping you find the places where you can get sustainable

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fish, whether wild caught or salmon as opposed to

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fish that are caught in very bad areas or not.

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Using practices, etc. Here's the

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bottom line. Sustainable eating is about

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making conscientious choices that reduce your

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environmental impact and they do

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nourish your body even better. You don't have to be

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perfect, none of us are. But you can do your part.

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And guess what? Your health will thank you too.

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So next time you're at the grocery store, think about where your food comes

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from and how it's affecting the planet.

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If it's a little more eco friendly, great. If not,

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that's okay too. Just think about making

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small steps in the right direction.

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This has been 4Q where we bring you the truth about food,

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science and everything in between. If you found this episode

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helpful, share it with someone who could use a little more

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sustainable eating in their life. And please follow me

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on Substack, where

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I'm@tsimpson.substack.com

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or TikTok, where I'm Rterry Simpson and

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apparently Instagram seems to be growing like crazy.

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This podcast was researched and written by me, Dr. Terry

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Simpson and while I am a board certified physician, I

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am not your doctor. If you're making dietary changes,

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please see your Western trained doctor and registered

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dietitian, not a chiropractor or some eastern trained

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shaman. Simpler Media handled all things

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audio and distribution with the help of the pod God,

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Mr. Evo Pera.

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Have a good sustainable week everybody.

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Remember when we tested that version of Lab based Burger

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and made a podcast about it? Now I want

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that burger. I

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have fond memories of that burger. In fact,

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I've actually incorporated some of the nuggets into

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my diet as well. Really, really

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good Stu.

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There’s a lot of medical information thrown around out there. How are you to know what information you can trust, and what’s just plain old quackery? You can’t rely on your own “google fu”. You can’t count on quality medical advice from Facebook. You need a doctor in your corner.

On each episode of Your Doctor’s Orders, Dr. Terry Simpson will cut through the clutter and noise that always seems to follow the latest medical news. He has the unique perspective of a surgeon who has spent years doing molecular virology research and as a skeptic with academic credentials. He’ll help you develop the critical thinking skills so you can recognize evidence-based medicine, busting myths along the way.

The most common medical myths are often disguised as seemingly harmless “food as medicine”. By offering their own brand of medicine via foods, These hucksters are trying to practice medicine without a license. And though they’ll claim “nutrition is not taught in medical schools”, it turns out that’s a myth too. In fact, there’s an entire medical subspecialty called Culinary Medicine, and Dr. Simpson is certified as a Culinary Medicine Specialist.

Where today's nutritional advice is the realm of hucksters, Dr. Simpson is taking it back to the realm of science.

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Terry Simpson

Dr. Terry Simpson received his undergraduate, graduate, and medical degrees from the University of Chicago where he spent several years in the Kovler Viral Oncology laboratories doing genetic engineering. Until he found he liked people more than petri dishes. Dr. Simpson, a weight loss surgeon is an advocate of culinary medicine, he believes teaching people to improve their health through their food and in their kitchen. On the other side of the world, he has been a leading advocate of changing health care to make it more "relationship based," and his efforts awarded his team the Malcolm Baldrige award for healthcare in 2018 and 2011 for the NUKA system of care in Alaska and in 2013 Dr Simpson won the National Indian Health Board Area Impact Award. A frequent contributor to media outlets discussing health related topics and advances in medicine, he is also a proud dad, husband, author, cook, and surgeon “in that order.”