Episode 131

The Scientists Who Built the Modern Snack

Published on: 11th June, 2026

How We Eat

Most of us think we know what we eat. However, nutrition researchers have learned a frustrating lesson over the years: asking people what they ate yesterday is often less accurate than anyone would like. Although food diaries and surveys can provide useful information, memories are imperfect, snacks are easily forgotten, and portion sizes tend to grow smaller in retrospect. Consequently, some of the most important nutrition research takes place in a setting that is both expensive and surprisingly simple—a metabolic ward, where every meal is prepared, every serving is weighed, and every leftover bite is measured.

That approach is exactly what researcher Kevin Hall and his colleagues used in a landmark study at the NIH. Participants were given two different diets, one based largely on ultra-processed foods and another built around minimally processed foods. Importantly, the volunteers could eat as much as they wanted. Nobody instructed them to count calories, restrict portions, or lose weight. Nevertheless, participants consumed about 500 more calories per day when eating the ultra-processed diet. The same people, living in the same environment, produced dramatically different results simply because the food changed.

Obesity in the US and Ultra-Processed Foods

As a result, the study raised an intriguing question. If ultra-processed foods can influence calorie intake to that degree, why isn't everyone obese? After all, ultra-processed foods make up a large portion of the modern food supply. Grocery stores are filled with them, convenience stores specialize in them, and many restaurants depend on them. Yet despite widespread exposure to the same food environment, some people seem relatively unaffected while others struggle with appetite, cravings, and weight gain.

Prego and Vanishing Calories

To understand how we arrived here, it helps to step back a few decades. During the latter half of the twentieth century, food companies increasingly turned to scientists, statisticians, and sensory researchers to understand consumer behavior. One of the most influential figures was Howard Moskowitz, a researcher who discovered that there was no single perfect food. Instead, he found that consumers tended to cluster into different preference groups. Some people preferred sweeter products, others wanted more texture, and still others favored stronger flavors. As a result, food manufacturers stopped searching for one ideal product and began creating multiple versions designed to appeal to different consumers.

Meanwhile, another researcher, Steven Witherly, focused on a different question. Rather than asking what people preferred, he explored why certain foods were so rewarding. His work highlighted the importance of texture, aroma, crunch, temperature, and mouthfeel. In other words, food is not simply taste. Instead, it is a complex sensory experience involving multiple signals that influence how satisfying a meal feels.

One of Witherly's most memorable concepts is known as vanishing caloric density. Certain foods, particularly puffed snacks, dissolve quickly in the mouth and create the sensation that they have almost disappeared. Although the calories remain, the physical experience of eating them can feel surprisingly brief. Consequently, these foods may be easier to consume in larger quantities before the body's normal satiety signals fully catch up. While that does not make such foods inherently bad, it does help explain why some snacks seem to empty themselves once the bag is opened.

Ultra-Processed Foods and GLP-1

At the same time, the modern food environment has become remarkably effective at attracting attention. Food manufacturers optimize texture, flavor, aroma, and convenience, while consumers encounter those products virtually everywhere. Therefore, the challenge is not simply one of personal responsibility. Biology, environment, culture, sleep, stress, and genetics all influence how people respond to food. Some individuals appear naturally protected, whereas others experience stronger reward signals and greater susceptibility to cravings.

Interestingly, the recent rise of GLP-1 medications has provided another perspective on appetite. Many patients describe a quieter relationship with food, noting that foods which once demanded attention suddenly seem less compelling. The food itself has not changed; rather, the brain's response to it has shifted. Consequently, these medications have highlighted something obesity researchers have suspected for years: appetite is not merely a matter of willpower. Instead, it reflects a complex interaction between biology and an increasingly sophisticated food environment.

Ultimately, Kevin Hall's study gave us an important clue about what happens when people are exposed to different types of food. Howard Moskowitz showed how companies learned to identify consumer preferences, while Steven Witherly helped explain why certain foods are so appealing in the first place. Together, their work offers a fascinating glimpse into the science behind modern eating and raises a question that may be more interesting than why some people gain weight. Perhaps the real mystery is why some people seem largely unaffected by an environment that was designed to capture our attention.

For a deeper discussion of food engineering, the bliss point, vanishing caloric density, and what this means for appetite in the era of GLP-1 medications, listen to this week's episode of Fork U.

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Learn more about what you put in your mouth.
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Not everything you put in your mouth is good for you.

There’s a lot of medical information thrown around out there. How are you to know what information you can trust, and what’s just plain old quackery? You can’t rely on your own “google fu”. You can’t count on quality medical advice from Facebook. You need a doctor in your corner.

On each episode of Your Doctor’s Orders, Dr. Terry Simpson will cut through the clutter and noise that always seems to follow the latest medical news. He has the unique perspective of a surgeon who has spent years doing molecular virology research and as a skeptic with academic credentials. He’ll help you develop the critical thinking skills so you can recognize evidence-based medicine, busting myths along the way.

The most common medical myths are often disguised as seemingly harmless “food as medicine”. By offering their own brand of medicine via foods, These hucksters are trying to practice medicine without a license. And though they’ll claim “nutrition is not taught in medical schools”, it turns out that’s a myth too. In fact, there’s an entire medical subspecialty called Culinary Medicine, and Dr. Simpson is certified as a Culinary Medicine Specialist.

Where today's nutritional advice is the realm of hucksters, Dr. Simpson is taking it back to the realm of science.

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Terry Simpson

Dr. Terry Simpson received his undergraduate, graduate, and medical degrees from the University of Chicago where he spent several years in the Kovler Viral Oncology laboratories doing genetic engineering. Until he found he liked people more than petri dishes. Dr. Simpson, a weight loss surgeon is an advocate of culinary medicine, he believes teaching people to improve their health through their food and in their kitchen. On the other side of the world, he has been a leading advocate of changing health care to make it more "relationship based," and his efforts awarded his team the Malcolm Baldrige award for healthcare in 2018 and 2011 for the NUKA system of care in Alaska and in 2013 Dr Simpson won the National Indian Health Board Area Impact Award. A frequent contributor to media outlets discussing health related topics and advances in medicine, he is also a proud dad, husband, author, cook, and surgeon “in that order.”